Reading the mood

Excel is ending the forty-year rule that a cell holds one value. I read all 50 comments. Exactly one named Microsoft — 0.2% of the vote — while 50.3% went to people asking whether the files they already have will still open

This thread hardly talked about the company at all. One comment in 50 named Microsoft, worth 0.2% of the vote. Half the vote went to a different question entirely — will the files I already have still open?

85 to 15 The split between the buttons pressed in support (1,474 agree, 204 insightful) and the button pressed against (307 disagree) across 50 parent comments, about eleven hours after publication, at 6:06am on 29 September 2026. The vote sits high up the thread - 21.1% of it on the single top comment, 52.0% on the top three, 66.9% on the top five, 82.3% on the top ten
0.2% The share of the vote collected by the one comment that wrote the name Microsoft. It was the only one of the 50 to name the company. Comments mentioning market rank or share - none. Comments naming a rival spreadsheet - none. Comments saying the company does this for attention - none. Comments writing Windows or OS - none
50.3% The share of the vote taken by the thirteen comments (26.0%) asking what happens to the files, formulas, macros and saved formats they already have. A further eight comments (16.0%) asking Microsoft to fix something else first took 31.3%. Setting aside the one comment in both groups, those 20 comments - 40.0% of the thread - hold 81.3% of the vote
The thread Excel、40年続く原則を変更へ 1個のセルで複数の値を扱う新機能 ITmedia NEWS (via Yahoo! News) · retrieved 2026-09-29 · open the original ↗

How the votes fell

Ranked by upvotes. Left of the slash is agree, right is disagree. This is where the resentment actually sits.

  1. 1st 311 ∕ 14 If they do this, every function that operates on a cell will need its specification changed, so the knock-on effect is too large. The fact that a cell is the smallest unit of data matters enormously, and once you break that, the structure gets endlessly more complicated with no way back 95% agreed (of agree plus disagree votes)
  2. 2nd 244 ∕ 7 So in other words, another new save format (sigh). There are probably a certain number of people who will find it handy, but personally I think it will cause new trouble, so caution comes first 97% agreed (of agree plus disagree votes)
  3. 3rd 212 ∕ 12 Before that, could they please finally drop the rule that stops you opening two files with the same name from different folders at the same time? The full path tells them apart, so being unable to open both is genuinely hard to understand 94% agreed (of agree plus disagree votes)
  4. 4th 156 ∕ 4 Did somebody actually ask Excel for this feature? Rather than this, I would be happier with a larger data capacity, or better response times when the data volume is high 97% agreed (of agree plus disagree votes)
  5. 5th 63 ∕ 2 That sort of thing should be left to Access or Base. Presumably they will at least make sure old sheets with cell references and merges do not come up as errors 96% agreed (of agree plus disagree votes)
The thread, in one paragraph

I read all 50 parent comments, about eleven hours after publication, at 6:06am on 29 September 2026. The article carries 62 comments in total, of which 12 are replies shown under parent comments. The buttons: 1,474 agree, 204 insightful, 307 disagree - 85 to 15. Of the 57 threads I have counted, this is the fourth smallest. The vote sits high up: the single top comment holds 311 agree presses, 21.1% of the vote, with 52.0% on the top three, 66.9% on the top five, 82.3% on the top ten and 93.8% on the top twenty. Lower down, 6 of the 50 comments (12.0%) drew no agree press at all, 2 (4.0%) drew no button of any kind, and 9 (18.0%) drew more disagree presses than agree. The average comment runs 49.2 characters; the longest is 145. Now for my own reading, checked against the count. I said this was Microsoft bolting on features nobody needs, a company that has slipped to third place or below, shoving any needless, unwanted feature into an update to stay visible, finished, clinging to its operating system. First, the company name. Of 50 comments, exactly one wrote Microsoft: 3 agree presses, 0.2% of the vote. Next, the ranking. Comments mentioning third place, market share or rank: none. Comments naming Google Sheets or any other rival spreadsheet: none. Comments saying the company does this for attention, publicity or show: none. Comments mentioning money, profit or subscription fees: none. Comments writing the words Windows or OS: none. Comments using the words unnecessary, pointless, unwanted or a waste: 4 (8.0%), with 27 agree presses, 1.8% of the vote. Comments insulting the company's standing - finished, incompetent, laughable, insane, stupid - 4 (8.0%), with 41 agree presses, 2.8% of the vote. In other words, almost nothing I said turned into votes in this thread. So where did the vote go? Comments touching on function specifications, save formats, file extensions, VBA, macros, csv, older versions or existing work - that is, on whether what they already own will break - number 13 (26.0%) and hold 741 agree presses, 50.3% of the vote. Comments asking Microsoft to fix something else first number 8 (16.0%) and hold 462 agree presses, 31.3%. Setting aside the one comment in both groups, that is 20 comments (40.0%) holding 1,199 agree presses, 81.3% of the vote. The remaining 30 comments hold 18.7%. What this thread was watching was not the company. It was the files in its own drawer. Some smaller counts. Comments plainly in favour of the new feature: 2 (4.0%), with 18 agree presses, 1.2% of the vote. Those same two comments drew 104 disagree presses, 33.9% of every disagree press in the thread, and one of them drew 103 on its own, 33.6%. Comments mentioning AI: 5 (10.0%), 18 agree presses, 1.2% of the vote, and 39 disagree presses, 12.7%. Comments asking how it will actually work: 6 (12.0%), 2.0% of the vote. Comments answering with a joke or sarcasm: 6 (12.0%), 4.3%. Comments saying Microsoft will quietly drop it anyway: 2 (4.0%), 62 agree presses, 4.2%. I also counted the article. It states that the feature is a preview, that it is going to some users only, that the specification may change before general availability, and that Microsoft does not recommend using it on important Excel files. Comments touching on preview status, general availability, trials, limited rollout, restrictions or that recommendation: none out of 50. Comments writing the forty years from the headline: none. Meanwhile the phrase smallest unit, from the top comment, appears once and carries 21.1% of the vote. On length: comments under 40 characters number 27 (54.0%) and hold 261 agree presses, 17.7% of the vote, while comments over 80 characters number 9 (18.0%) and hold 976 agree presses, 66.2%. On replies: there are 12, three of them under the third-placed comment, and 42 of the 50 comments (84.0%) drew no reply at all. Things I have not checked. I have not checked where Microsoft actually ranks. Slipped, doing it for attention, finished - those are my words, not statements of fact, and I wrote impression myself. This note looked up no revenue figures and no spreadsheet market share. The same goes for clinging to the operating system: this is not an article about an operating system, it is an article about a feature in a spreadsheet. I have not tried Lists. What I read was the ITmedia NEWS article and the 50 comments underneath it. One note on the numbers: Yahoo! News listed 50 parent comments and I read 50, so every percentage here is out of that 50 - which is small enough that a single comment moves a share by 2%. Voices I counted but did not quote. Comments containing abuse of a person or a company: 4 (8.0%), 41 agree presses, 2.8% of the vote. Comments giving ethnicity, descent or race as a reason: none. Finally, the scorecard. Unnecessary features - 4 comments, 1.8% of the vote. Slipped to third place or below - none. Doing it for attention - none. Finished - 4 comments, 2.8%. Clinging to the operating system - none. What took 81.3% of the vote instead was whether the things they already have will break, and whether there was something else to fix first. The comment shared on X stands 4th in this thread: 156 agree presses, 7 insightful, 4 disagree, and one reply. It too says nothing at all about the company.

At 7:20pm on 28 September 2026, ITmedia NEWS published on Yahoo! News.

Microsoft had announced, on 24 September local time, a new Excel feature called Lists. It lets you put several pieces of data into a single cell and then use each of them separately for filtering and calculation.

You could always type two names into one cell before, but the whole thing was treated as one string of text. Now, if a cell holds both Tanaka and Sato, searching for either name will find that cell.

Microsoft itself describes this as changing the forty-year-old rule that a cell holds one value.

The article says one more thing. This is a preview, rolling out to some Windows and Mac users. There are limits — data inside an array cannot be used in a pivot table — and the specification may change before general availability, so Microsoft does not recommend using it on important Excel files.

Fifty people wrote in the Yahoo! News comment section underneath.

What I thought

When I saw this article, here is what I thought.

Microsoft, bolting on features nobody needs.

The impression is of a company that has already slipped to third place or below.

A company that will shove any unnecessary, unwanted feature into an update just to stay visible.

It is finished.

All it has left is clinging to the operating system.

That was my reading.

You will notice that all of it is about the company. A company that adds needless things. A company that has slipped. A company that wants attention. A company that is finished. A company clinging to its operating system.

So this time I turned that into something countable. Is this thread talking about the company?

What came back was not what I expected.

85 to 15 — 50 comments, about eleven hours old

I read all 50 parent comments. The article carries 62 comments in total, 12 of them replies.

The buttons: 1,474 agree, 204 insightful, 307 disagree. Supportive presses against pushback comes out at 85 to 15.

Of the 57 threads I have counted, this is the fourth smallest. Fifty comments is a number you can read one by one in under an hour.

The vote sits high up. The single top comment holds 311 agree presses, 21.1% of everything pressed, with 52.0% on the top three, 66.9% on the top five, 82.3% on the top ten and 93.8% on the top twenty.

Lower down, 6 of the 50 comments (12.0%) drew no agree press at all. Two (4.0%) drew no button of any kind, and nine (18.0%) drew more disagree presses than agree.

The average comment runs 49.2 characters; the longest is 145. This is a short thread.

The most-pressed comment says: a cell is the smallest unit of data

Here is the comment this thread read most.

If they do this, every single function that operates on a cell will need its specification changed, so I think the knock-on effect is far too large. The fact that a cell is the smallest unit of data matters enormously, and my worry is that once you break that, there will be no avoiding a structure that grows endlessly more complicated.

これをやってしまうと、セルに対して作用する全ての関数の仕様を変更する必要が生まれますから、影響が大きすぎると思います。 セルはデータの最小単位であるという事実は非常に重要ですから、それを一旦崩すと、際限なく構造が複雑化していくということを避けられなくなるのではないかということが懸念されます。
▲ 311 ・ ▼ 14retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

311 agree presses — 21.1% of everything this thread pressed.

Look at what it does. It does not call Microsoft anything. There is no company name in it, no market position, no operating system.

There are two things in it: every single function, and the smallest unit. SUM sits on top of the one-value-per-cell rule. So does VLOOKUP. So do the tens of thousands of spreadsheets running in offices right now. Move the rule and everything stacked on it has to be checked again.

That is the one point this thread pressed hardest.

Exactly one comment wrote the name Microsoft

Here is the scorecard against my reading.

Of 50 comments, one wrote the name Microsoft. It drew 3 agree presses, 0.2% of the vote.

Microsoft, stop doing unnecessary things. Same with Copilot+ PC. It makes me angry.

Microsoftは、余計なことをするな。 Copilot+PCにしろ 腹が立つ。
▲ 3 ・ ▼ 0retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

That is the only one.

The rest went like this.

  • Comments mentioning third place, market share or rank — none
  • Comments naming Google Sheets or any other rival spreadsheet — none
  • Comments saying the company does this for attention, publicity or show — none
  • Comments mentioning money, profit, subscriptions or price rises — none
  • Comments writing the words Windows or OS — none

All five, zero. My reading was built entirely out of the company. The company is almost absent from this thread.

The words unnecessary and unwanted appear in 4 comments — 1.8% of the vote

I counted the literal words too. Comments using unnecessary, unwanted, pointless or a waste: 4, or 8.0%, holding 27 agree presses between them — 1.8% of the vote.

In words, they say what I said. In votes, they were not what this thread came for.

I also counted comments insulting the company's standing — finished, incompetent, laughable, insane, stupid. 4, or 8.0%, holding 41 agree presses, 2.8% of the vote.

One of them comes closest of all to my own reading.

Same as every time - no thought whatsoever for what people already have. Which is why it does not get used in offices or in business, and gets laughed at. It is the logic of the industrious incompetent. Surely there are better things to be doing.

毎回恒例だが、既存資産の事は全く考えていない。 だからオフィスやビジネスで使われないし失笑される。 無能な働き者の理屈と一緒。それよりやることあるだろう。
▲ 4 ・ ▼ 1retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

Four agree presses. 0.3% of the vote.

That comment writes down almost everything I wrote. Needless. Finished. Something better to be doing. And four people pressed it.

Half the vote went to: will what I already have still work?

So where did those 1,474 agree presses go?

Function specifications. Save formats. File extensions. VBA. Macros. csv. Old versions. Existing work. In other words, whether the things they already own will break. Thirteen comments, 26.0% of the thread, holding 741 agree presses — 50.3% of the vote.

The second-placed comment is the model of it.

So in other words, another new save format (sigh). There are probably a fair few people who will find it handy, but for my part I think it will be the cause of new trouble, so caution gets in first.

つまり、また新しい保存形式に変更するということだな(ため息) あれば便利と考える人は一定数いるのかもしれないけれど、私はむしろ、新しいトラブルを生む原因になると思うので、警戒心の方が先に立ってしまうなぁ
▲ 244 ・ ▼ 7retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

244 agree presses, 16.6% of the vote.

Note that it leaves room for the other side: a fair few people will find it handy. Then it says that where it sits, caution comes first. It is not against the new thing. It is protecting what is already on the desk.

Fix something else first — 8 comments, 31.3% of the vote, including the one shared on X

There is a second block. Before this, please fix something else.

Eight comments, 16.0%, holding 462 agree presses — 31.3% of the vote.

Two files with the same name in different folders cannot be opened at once. What you see on screen is not what prints. Printing goes out of alignment. Startup is slow. It freezes. Pivot tables are unreliable. The Outlook VBA link. These are ten-year-old complaints, lined up.

The comment shared on X belongs to this block.

Did somebody actually ask Excel for this feature? Rather than this, I would be far happier with a bigger data capacity, or better response times when there is a lot of data.

誰かExcelにその機能をつけて欲しいって要望したんですかね? こんな事より取り扱えるデータ量増やすとかデータ量多い時のレスポンス改善するとかの方が嬉しいんですけど。
▲ 156 ・ ▼ 4retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

156 agree presses, 4th in this thread, 10.6% of the vote, with one reply.

It too says nothing about the company. There are only two things in it: who asked for this, and there are things to do first.

The two blocks — thirteen comments about breakage and eight about fixing something else — overlap in one comment. Take that out and you have 20 comments, 40.0% of the thread, holding 1,199 agree presses — 81.3% of the vote.

The other 30 comments hold 18.7%.

The most pushed-back comment is the one that said it was useful

Two comments, 4.0% of the thread, come out plainly in favour of the feature. Between them they hold 18 agree presses, 1.2% of the vote.

They also hold 104 disagree presses — 33.9% of every disagree press in the thread.

One of them holds 103 on its own: 33.6%.

It looks like a pointless feature at first glance, but I think it is genuinely useful for aggregating data. There must be plenty of cases where people fall back on Access precisely because you cannot do this.

一見要らない機能に思えますが、データ集計には有用だと思います。 こういうのが出来ないので、止むなくAccessを使っているケースも多そうですし。
▲ 17 ・ ▼ 103retrieved 2026-09-29open the original ↗

17 agree presses and 11 insightful, against 103 disagree.

It is courteous about it. It stands on the other side first — it looks pointless at first glance — before saying what it thinks. It still became the most pushed-back comment in the thread.

This thread is not unanimous — at 85 to 15, the pushback is only 15% of everything pressed. But almost all of it landed on the people who took the feature's side.

Nobody wrote down the article's own caveat

One more thing surprised me in the count.

The article says clearly that this is a preview, that it is going to some users only, that the specification may change before general availability, and that Microsoft does not recommend using it on important Excel files.

Comments touching on preview status, general availability, trials, limited rollout, restrictions or that recommendation: none out of 50.

Comments writing the forty years from the headline: none either.

And yet the seventh-placed comment says this: the scary thing is that they suddenly announce actually, never mind!, so you should not use it unless you really have to. 61 agree presses.

Nobody quoted the caveat, and they are worried about exactly what the caveat says. Not because they read it. Because they have been here before.

Length, and replies

Comments under 40 characters number 27, or 54.0% — over half the thread. They hold 261 agree presses, 17.7% of the vote.

Comments over 80 characters number 9, or 18.0%. They hold 976 agree presses, 66.2%.

The same shape as last time. The vote goes to the ones that give a reason, not the ones that land a line.

There are 12 replies, three of them under the third-placed comment. 42 of the 50 comments (84.0%) drew no reply at all.

Context for readers outside Japan

Excel is used very widely in Japanese offices, and not only as a spreadsheet. Application forms, staff lists, meeting minutes, even rough drawings get made in Excel. One comment in this thread is a joke at exactly that: Japanese companies saying see, Excel really can do everything, you can even write documents in it.

So one value per cell is, in this country, more than a specification detail. Decades of paperwork are stacked on top of it.

What this thread set out to defend was not its opinion of Microsoft, and not anything about Japan. It was the files already sitting in its own drawer.

That is why the company name appears once, and rank and operating systems never. What 20 of the 50 wrote about was one question: will the thing I already have still open?

Things I have not checked

I have not checked where Microsoft actually ranks. Slipped, doing it for attention, finished — those are my words, not statements of fact. I wrote impression myself.

This note looked up no revenue figures and no spreadsheet market share. The same goes for clinging to the operating system: this is not an article about an operating system, it is an article about a feature in a spreadsheet.

I have not tried Lists. What I read was the ITmedia NEWS article and the 50 comments underneath it.

One note on the numbers. Yahoo! News listed 50 parent comments and I read 50, so every percentage here is out of that 50 — small enough that a single comment moves a share by 2%. Please read them that way.

Voices I counted but did not quote

Comments containing abuse of a person or a company: 4, or 8.0%, with 41 agree presses, 2.8% of the vote. One of them is quoted above; the rest are not.

Comments giving ethnicity, descent or race as a reason: none.

The scorecard

My reading, one line at a time.

  • Features nobody needs — 4 comments, 1.8% of the vote
  • Slipped to third place or below — none
  • Doing it for attention — none
  • Finished — 4 comments, 2.8%
  • Clinging to the operating system — none

Three of the five are zero.

What took 81.3% of the vote instead was whether the things they already have will break, and whether there was something to fix first.

What this thread was actually saying

I was looking at the company. This thread was looking at its own desk.

Not one of the fifty cared where Microsoft ranks. One of them wrote the company's name. Twenty of them wrote about the files they are already carrying.

Whether Microsoft is first or third does not matter to these people. What matters is whether the spreadsheet they built last year opens the same way tomorrow morning. That is where the presses went.

The words from the most-pressed comment are worth setting down again: the fact that a cell is the smallest unit of data matters enormously.

What this thread defended was not an opinion about a company. It was the work it had stacked, for years, on top of that one line.

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