Japan's PM stopped ten minutes' walk from Yasukuni Shrine and prayed from a parking lot. The comment section split almost down the middle — which never happens here.
What is Yasukuni Shrine, and why would a prime minister walk to within ten minutes of its gate and stop? If this is your first time hearing of it, this page explains from the beginning.
How the votes fell
Ranked by upvotes. Left of the slash is agree, right is disagree. This is where the resentment actually sits.
- 1 3753 ∕ 736 Did she visit Chidorigafuchi? If Yasukuni is impossible, surely she could pray there — it is quiet, away from the noise, and flowers stood there in the PM's and her ministers' names. Honestly, for mourning the war dead, isn't that the more fitting place?
- 2 3014 ∕ 552 Today's politicians would not be the ones sent to the front line, only the ones signing the orders. My own uncles came back from the war and never once spoke of it. Rituals aside, the duty to mourn must not be forgotten.
- 3 1776 ∕ 474 Who exactly is she deferring to? Other countries test ballistic missiles and call Japan's protests "interference in domestic affairs." What is wrong with a prime minister paying sincere respects to the people who died for Japan? I want her to hold to what she has always said.
- 4 1205 ∕ 261 Whether to visit involves real political and diplomatic questions, so let each person judge. But turning the dead themselves into ammunition for political argument is another matter. First mourn quietly, as one human being.
- 5 654 ∕ 292 Private capacity, official capacity — isn't the media making the fuss here? Dutifully relaying the neighbors' anger every year until "safer not to visit" becomes the common sense. Personally I wish she had walked in with her head high.
I read all 1,567 parent comments. Adding up the votes readers gave them: 23,169 'I relate' votes against 13,797 'hmm...' votes — 63 to 37. Checked one comment at a time, 533 of the 1,567 — one in three — received more disagreement than agreement, the highest share in the seventeen threads this site has counted. The most-supported comment (3,753) asks whether the PM visited the secular Chidorigafuchi cemetery instead. Third place (1,776) asks who she is deferring to. The 98 comments arguing about her broken pledge — she had said she would visit — total 1,626 in agreement against 1,583 in disagreement, an almost even split. The 163 comments discussing the parking-lot prayer itself total 2,569 against 2,780 — the only large group where disagreement wins. And the strongest comment defending the PM (487 for, 625 against) and the strongest comment attacking her (165 for, 508 against) were both rejected by their readers.
August 15 is the day Japan's war ended. On the 81st anniversary, at noon, the National Memorial Ceremony for the War Dead was held at the Nippon Budokan hall in Tokyo — the Emperor and Empress in attendance, a minute of silence with the bereaved families, the quietest official hour this country keeps.
Prime Minister Takaichi attended the ceremony. Before it began, she stood in the Budokan's parking lot, faced the direction of Yasukuni Shrine, and performed the formal sequence used when praying at a shrine: two bows, two claps, one bow. Praying toward a shrine from a distance is called yōhai. Yasukuni's gate is about a ten-minute walk from that parking lot. She sent the shrine a ritual monetary offering, paid out of her own pocket under her title as party leader — and did not enter the shrine itself. The same day, four of her cabinet ministers, including the defense minister, walked in and prayed.
Why would someone come within a ten-minute walk and stop? That question needs background, so here it is.
What Yasukuni Shrine is. It is a Shinto shrine founded in 1869 by the Meiji government to honor its civil-war dead. Since then it has come to enshrine roughly 2.46 million people who died for the country — each one registered by name and venerated as a deity. The trouble dates to 1978. That year, fourteen men convicted as Class-A war criminals at the postwar Tokyo trials were quietly added to the rolls. Ever since, China and South Korea have protested that a Japanese prime minister praying at Yasukuni amounts to justifying the war itself. Emperor Hirohito had visited eight times after the war; he stopped in 1975, and no emperor has visited since the war criminals were enshrined. The last sitting prime minister to walk through the gate was Shinzo Abe in 2013 — and on that occasion, not only Beijing and Seoul protested, but the United States government said it was "disappointed."
So Yasukuni is two things at once: the place where Japan's war dead are honored by name, and a place where one particular person's footsteps become a diplomatic incident.
Takaichi spent her political career visiting Yasukuni on this date, year after year, as a cabinet minister. So the question running through the morning news was simple: now that she is Prime Minister, will she walk in? The answer turned out to be a parking lot.
How I counted — read this part first
The following morning, August 16, I read all 1,567 parent comments under the news story (2,432 including replies).
Under every comment on Yahoo! News Japan, readers can press one of two main buttons: 共感した — "I relate" — and うーん — "hmm...", which is about the politest way this country has of saying "no, I don't think so." Throughout this page, "I relate" means agreement with the comment, and "hmm" means disagreement.
Adding up the buttons pressed on all 1,567 comments: 23,169 "I relate" against 13,797 "hmm" — a ratio of 63 to 37.
To see why that is remarkable, you need to know how Japanese comment sections usually behave: they line up. In an earlier thread I counted, under a story about the national broadcaster's licence fee, 98 percent of all votes pointed the same way — nearly every reader nodding at the same opinions. A 63-to-37 split means the readers of this thread are divided nearly down the middle, which almost never happens here.
There is a second way to count. Take the comments one at a time, and ask of each: did it receive more disagreement than agreement — was this opinion rejected by the people who read it? Today, 533 comments out of 1,567 were. One in three. That is the highest share in the seventeen threads this site has counted. The previous highest was this month's thread about the atomic bombings. Only the threads about the war, in August, divide like this.
What the comments say, in order of support
The most-supported comment does not say "she should have walked in." It does not say "she was right to stay out." It points somewhere else entirely.
Did she pay her respects at the Chidorigafuchi cemetery, I wonder? If Yasukuni is impossible, surely she could pray there? [...] Honestly, for mourning the war dead, isn't that the more fitting place? The unidentified and the unclaimed rest there too.
千鳥ヶ淵戦没者墓苑には参拝なされたのでしょうか?
靖國神社がダメならこちらには参拝してもよいのでは?
[…]
戦没者慰霊なら正直こちらの方が適しているのでは?
身元不明の無縁仏も祀られていますし。3,753 "I relate" against 736 "hmm" — the top of the thread. Chidorigafuchi National Cemetery sits a few minutes from Yasukuni. It is a secular site the state built for the remains of some 370,000 war dead who could never be identified. No religion is involved and no war criminals are enshrined, so no one's visit there causes a diplomatic incident. Thirty-eight comments make this same move — looking for a door outside Yasukuni — and in a thread this divided, that was the largest agreement on the page.
Third place holds the question everyone in Japan was privately asking that day.
Just an amateur's opinion, but — who exactly is she deferring to? Other countries run ballistic-missile tests, and when Japan protests, they call it interference in domestic affairs. What exactly is wrong with a prime minister going in person to offer sincere condolence to the souls of those who fought for Japan? The foreign criticism is the real interference. Prime Minister Takaichi, hold to what you have always said.
素人な意見ですが、誰に遠慮してるんですかね
他の国は弾道ミサイルの実験とかして、日本が抗議すると内政干渉などとコメント言います。
別に日本のために戦われた方の戦没者の御霊に対して哀悼の誠を靖國神社に首相が直接訪問することが何が悪いんでしょ。諸外国が批判することは内政干渉でしょ、、
高市首相、これまでの考えを貫いて欲しいと思います"Who exactly is she deferring to?" — 1,776 "I relate" votes. The question has a backstory, and the thread documents it. Before her party's leadership election, Takaichi said "I will visit." During the election: "I will consider it." After winning: no visit. One comment lays out exactly that timeline (52 "I relate," 8 "hmm"). Another, high in the thread with 494 against 192, says: she had pledged to keep visiting, so naturally some people will feel this is not what was promised — an explanation is required.
She said she would go, and she did not. So who stopped her? The thread offered three suspects. "Japan is so economically dependent on China that even a PM who swore she would go, cannot" — 327 "I relate," 216 "hmm." "The media relays the neighbors' anger every year until 'safer not to visit' becomes the atmosphere" — 654 against 292. "Did her coalition partner talk her out of it?" — 177 against 200, meaning this one was more rejected than supported. The question itself drew 1,776 votes of agreement. Not one of the proposed answers won a clear majority.
One highly-placed comment (425 "I relate," 178 "hmm") brings up the Emperor, and it is the best short explanation of Yasukuni on the page. Its argument: mourning the war dead and paying respects at Yasukuni — one specific religious institution — are two different acts. Emperor Hirohito visited eight times after the war, stopped once the war criminals were enshrined, and the present imperial family has kept that restraint: not out of disrespect for the dead, but so that the symbol of the nation does not endorse one particular reading of history. Consider what that means: the shrine at the center of this argument is one that Japan's own emperors no longer enter — and the country is divided over whether its prime minister should.
Did the parking-lot compromise itself win anyone over, then? It did not. One comment (148 "I relate," 65 "hmm") points out that the word yōhai has its own history: during the war, subjects were made to bow toward the Imperial Palace from wherever in the empire they stood. Using that loaded word for a prayer performed ten minutes' walk from the actual gate, the commenter writes, shows a startling lack of judgment. Another (406 against 118): "from a helicopter, from a parking lot... half-hearted as performances go." Across the 163 comments that discuss the parking-lot prayer itself, the totals come to 2,569 "I relate" against 2,780 "hmm" — the only large group of comments in this thread where disagreement outweighs agreement. The gesture designed to anger neither side satisfied neither side.
Now the most telling part of the page. Here is the strongest comment defending the Prime Minister, followed by the strongest comment attacking her.
So even PM Takaichi cannot manage a direct visit... I admit I was a little disappointed. But that she chose the yōhai at all — personally, I am glad of it. She showed the war dead her respect, even from a distance. It is a small thing, but it separates her decisively from the people who ended at 'I wanted to go but couldn't.' May these small acts pile up until, someday, a direct visit becomes possible.
高市首相でもまだ直接参拝は難しいのか…と少々がっかりはしましたが
それでも「遥拝」という選択肢をとっていただけただけでも個人的には良かったと思いました
首相は国のために戦ってくれた先人たちに遠くからでも慰霊の意を表してくれた
これは過去の「やりたかったけどできなかった」で終わらせた人たちとは小さいけど決定的に違うことを示しています
この小さな行動が積み重なって、いつか直接参拝の機会が得られますようにSkipping the visit for the national interest — that much I can credit. But after everything she had said, her supporters expected her to go, and she betrayed that expectation. The parking-lot 'two bows, two claps, one bow' is a bit of theatre, staged to soften the hit to her approval ratings. [...]
国益のためには靖国参拝を見送ったことは評価できる。
一方、これまでの発言から、威勢の良い高市さんの支持者の多くは参拝すると期待をしていたが、結果としてそれを裏切った。それによる支持率の低下を抑えるための「二拝二拍手一拝」での得意のアピール。[…]The first comment defends her: disappointed, but the gesture was worth something. Its votes: 487 "I relate" against 625 "hmm." More readers rejected it than agreed with it.
The second comment attacks her: she raised the expectation and betrayed it. Its votes: 165 "I relate" against 508 "hmm." Also rejected.
They are not alone. "Choose A or choose B, a prime minister gets attacked either way — this was fine": 298 against 346. "So she turns out the same as every PM before her; a hard wheel to steer, I take my hat off": 247 against 431. "A Shinto prayer performed on official duty violates the constitutional separation of religion and state": 123 against 297. Sympathy, accusation, resignation, constitutional law — the more clearly a comment picked a side, the more disagreement it collected.
What I make of it
First, in this thread, every stated opinion drew fire. One comment in three received more disagreement than agreement — the highest share in this site's seventeen threads. Remember, this is the country whose comment sections agreed 98 percent about a licence fee, and about 90 percent in praise of a flood map. In my ledger, Japanese readers have split down the middle exactly twice — over the atomic bombings earlier this month, and over Yasukuni now. Both times, the subject was the war, in August. Eighty-one years on, these are the only questions on which this country still has no single answer.
Second, the comments that did win support share one feature: they take no position on the shrine. First place looks for another door — Chidorigafuchi (3,753). Second place is a family memory: uncles who came back from the war and never spoke of it, and a household that still carries offerings to the temple's war memorial every year (3,014). Fourth place: "do not make the dead into ammunition for political argument" (1,205). On mourning itself, this thread does not divide at all. It divides only over the place called Yasukuni.
Third, "but she said she would go" splits the readers exactly in half — the 98 comments on the broken pledge total 1,626 in agreement against 1,583 in disagreement, the closest to a coin flip I have measured in a thread this size. Only the question "who stopped her?" wins broad support, at 1,776; each proposed answer — economic dependence on China, an atmosphere manufactured by the media, pressure from the coalition partner — remains contested. Everyone can feel that something stopped the Prime Minister. No one can get the thread to agree on its name.
Fourth, for the foreign reader. Yasukuni is not a dispute about whether to mourn the war dead — mourning alone starts no argument here, and Chidorigafuchi is the proof. It is a dispute about how the war itself is to be remembered, and 81 years have not settled it. The Prime Minister stopped in a parking lot, ten minutes' walk from the gate. Those ten minutes are the distance between today's Japan and its war.
I will keep counting, and I will keep watching.
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